Pro tip: my aunt in Savannah told me to stop kneading my dough so much and it finally clicked
I was complaining to my aunt Ruth over coffee last month about my sandwich loaves coming out dense and she asked how long I knead. When I said 12 to 15 minutes she just laughed and said I was working the gluten to death. I tried cutting it to about 8 minutes on my last three bakes and the crumb has been so much lighter. Has anyone else been taught to knead way longer than they actually need to?