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I finally switched to a different brand of filler after a bad batch ruined a job

I had a 2018 F-150 with a quarter panel dent that I filled with my usual stuff, but it started cracking after just three days. The supplier said they changed the formula six months ago to cut costs. Has anyone else had issues with filler quality dropping recently?

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pat_schmidt60•11h ago

Always thought those infrared paint curing systems were a waste of money for a small shop

My buddy at the shop in Akron swore by his, but I figured my old heat lamps were fine. Then we had a rush job on a black metallic door that needed to go out same day, and he let me use his. The panel was ready for wet sanding in 20 minutes, not 3 hours. How many of you have made the switch and was it worth the upfront cost?

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alexw75•1d ago

My uncle said to always use a guide coat on filler, I finally tried it on a hood last month

He told me 'you can't see waves with your eyes, only with your hands and light.' Block sanded a quarter panel for three hours before, now I get it done in one. Anyone else have a simple trick that saved them a ton of time?

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margaret_kelly55•4d ago

Talking to a detailer at a car show made me stop using quick detail spray on fresh paint

I was at the big show in Charlotte last weekend and got chatting with a guy who does high end paint correction. I mentioned I'd been using a spray wax on a fresh respray after a week, just to get some shine on it for the customer. He looked at me like I had two heads and said, 'You're sealing in solvents. That paint needs to breathe for a solid month, minimum.' He explained it can cause clouding or adhesion problems down the road. I'd never really thought about it that way, I just figured once it was dry to the touch it was good. Now I'm telling my customers to just hand wash with plain water for the first 30 days. Has anyone else had a problem from sealing fresh paint too early?

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pat_schmidt60•4d ago

My 3M sanding block holder cracked right in my hand on a quarter panel yesterday

Was doing some final 800 grit work on a Honda Civic rear quarter. The plastic clip that holds the sandpaper just gave out, sent the block flying. Had to finish the section by hand, took way longer. Anyone have a brand for those holders that doesn't feel so cheap? I'm tired of buying replacements every few months.

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joelwells•6d ago

Spent a whole day chasing a paint reaction on a '22 Silverado

I was doing a quarter panel repair and my sealer coat reacted with the factory primer, causing a weird wrinkling that took 6 hours of sanding and redoing to fix. It was one of those jobs where you think you're an hour out and then the whole day is gone. Has anyone else run into this with newer GM clear primers?

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drewsullivan•7d ago

Got a call to fix a hail dent on a hood and the paint cracked when I started pulling

Tbh, it was on a black Honda Civic at a shop in Dayton. The dent was small but deep, right on a body line. I set up my glue pull kit, got the tab on, and started the pull. Honestly, I heard a tiny pop and saw a hairline crack shoot out from the dent. My heart sank. I stopped right away, heated the area with my heat gun on low to relax the paint, and let it cool. Then I switched to a low-profile dent lifter from the underside, working it super slow. It took me like an extra hour, but I got the dent out without making the crack worse. After that, I just feathered the crack, primed, and spot-painted. Has anyone else had paint just give up on a pull, and what's your go-to fix?

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the_reese•7d ago

A customer's simple thank you note made my week

I finished a full quarter panel replacement on a 2012 Civic for a man named Mr. Henderson last Thursday. When he picked it up, he just shook my hand and said, 'You gave my old car a second life.' He mailed me a thank you card two days later, which I still have on my toolbox. Do you all keep little things like that from jobs that went well?

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joelwells•8d ago

Stopped by the old Pick-a-Part junkyard in Bakersfield and saw they've started crushing whole rows of '90s cars for scrap.

I mean, it's just harder to find good, straight donor panels for older jobs now, so where are you guys sourcing parts for those classic restorations?

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tara623•8d ago

I've been mixing my filler wrong for years and didn't know it

I was working on a quarter panel for a 2015 Civic and my filler just wasn't curing right, staying tacky. My apprentice, Jake, watched me for a minute and said, 'You always put the hardener on the board first, right?' I realized I'd been doing exactly that for a decade, thinking it was the right way. I switched to putting the filler down first, then adding the hardener, and the mix was perfect and cured evenly. Has anyone else had a basic habit they had to unlearn?

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the_morgan•9d ago

Tried a heat gun on a plastic bumper dent and it went wrong

Had a small dent in a black poly bumper on a 2018 Civic. I saw a video where a guy used a heat gun to soften it and push it out from behind. I set my gun to about 400 degrees and worked it for maybe two minutes. The dent popped, but the whole area got a weird, wavy texture and the paint clouded up. I learned that heat needs to be way more even and gentle than I thought. Anyone have a better method for these plastic dents that doesn't risk the finish?

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paul251•12d ago

Tried a 3M panel bonding adhesive on a rust repair and it pulled the surrounding metal into a low spot.

I learned that even a high-strength structural adhesive can telegraph underlying flaws if the substrate isn't perfectly flat, so what's your preferred method for dealing with minor warping before an adhesive repair?

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simona77•12d ago

The weird thing I keep seeing with quarter panel patch jobs

Honestly, I've seen three different cars roll into my bay in the last month where someone tried to patch a quarter panel with just a thin layer of filler over rust holes. Ngl, one was a 2012 Civic where you could see daylight through the bondo. It matters because that stuff holds water and the rust comes back twice as bad in like six months. I know because I had to cut out a whole section last week that was just mush under the surface. Has anyone else had to fix a hack job like this recently, and what's your process for talking to the owner about it?

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lisa749•12d ago

Remember when we all thought water-based paint was just a passing fad?

I was sure it was junk when it first showed up in our shop about fifteen years back. The old solvent stuff was tough, it covered well, and we knew how to work with it. This new stuff looked thin, dried weird, and the color match seemed off. Then we got a job for a big fleet of electric vans for a local delivery company, and their specs required water-based. I grumbled through the whole first van. But after spraying a few, I saw the clear coat laid down smoother with less orange peel. The booth cleanup was easier, just soap and water, and my head didn't throb at the end of the day. The real kicker was the color; once you get the technique right, the metallic really pops in a way the old stuff never did. Anyone else have a product they hated at first but now can't work without?

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the_jana•12d ago

Rant: A full day on a 'simple' quarter panel turned into a nightmare

Had a 2018 Civic come in with what looked like a basic dent, but once I got the trim off, I found a huge section of bondo from a bad old fix that was hiding rust. Spent eight hours just cutting it out and prepping new metal. How do you guys price a job when you find way more damage than the estimate showed?

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kai_butler83•14d ago

Showerthought: I see shops still using old-school body filler on quarter panels when a section is the clear winner.

Had a 2020 Silverado with a dented rear quarter. The filler job the customer brought in failed after a Chicago winter, but the section we did held up perfectly. Why are we still patching when a clean section is stronger and faster in the long run?

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nathana48•15d ago

Had to choose between a full quarter panel replacement or a section repair on a 2018 F-150 with a deep crease behind the wheel.

I went with the section to keep the factory welds intact, but man, getting that contour right on the new metal took me three tries with the hammer and dolly before it sat flush, so what's your go-to method for tricky panel sections?

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haydenbutler•17d ago

Thought that new ceramic clear coat was just hype, but my buddy in Tampa swore by it.

He said it held up way better against the Florida sun on his own truck. I tried it on a 2021 F-150 hood repair last week, and the gloss after buffing was insane, like a mirror. Anyone else tried a specific brand they'd actually recommend for daily drivers?

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joseph_adams66•19d ago

The shop across town went from a mess to a money maker in under a year

I drove by Miller's Auto Body for years and it always looked rough, with cars sitting outside half painted. Then about 8 months ago, they got a new manager from a big shop in Columbus. Now the lot is clean, the paint booth is always running, and they're booked out for weeks. The difference is they started using a real scheduling board and stopped letting customers rush them. It's proof that good systems beat just working harder. Has anyone else seen a shop turn around that fast just from getting organized?

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young.mia•22d ago

Had to choose between a proper dent puller or a toilet plunger on a Sunday

Customer's kid put a softball-sized dent in their door and needed it 'fixed' before a Monday morning meeting. I went with the plunger, warm water, and a prayer. It popped out clean, but I'll never forget the look on my wife's face when I asked to borrow her good bathroom one. Anyone else had to get creative with a weird 'emergency' fix?

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fisher.grant•22d ago

Finally got the hang of blending that tricky pearl white on a 2018 Civic bumper

For months my blends on that specific Honda color always had a slight line you could see in direct sun. Last week I tried adding an extra coat of midcoat and letting it flash for a full 8 minutes before the clear. The difference was night and day, no more hard edge. Anyone have a different method for tri-coat whites that works for them?

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felixfisher•23d ago

I got called out for my primer work on a '68 Mustang hood

A guy at the shop in Toledo said my primer looked like orange peel before I even started sanding. I switched to a slower reducer and held the gun a bit closer, maybe 8 inches away. What's your go-to trick for getting that smooth first coat right?

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reed.taylor•23d ago

Rant: A customer's 'minor' bumper scuff on a 2021 Silverado turned into a 3-day nightmare with the parking sensors

Guy comes in, says he tapped a post. Looked like a quick sand and paint. Pulled the bumper cover and found the bracket behind the sensor was bent just enough to throw the whole system off. Had to get a new bracket from the dealer, wait for it, then recalibrate all four sensors. The quote was for $400, ended up being over $1200. He was not happy. Anyone else run into these sensor issues becoming way bigger than the visible damage? What's your process for checking them on a quick estimate?

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the_terry•24d ago

Rant: A customer brought in a 2018 F-150 with a 'simple' dent that turned into a full quarter panel job

Last week in the shop, a guy came in with a big dent on his truck's rear quarter. He said he hit a pole backing up and thought we could just pop it out. Once we got the trim off, we found the inner structure was bent and the spot welds had cracked. My boss quoted him for a full section replacement, which was over $2,800. The customer was not happy at all. How do you guys handle explaining that kind of hidden damage without making people think you're just trying to get more money?

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anna_stone45•24d ago

That old timer at the salvage yard in Spokane had a point about quarter panels

He told me, 'Kid, you can't just weld over rust, you gotta chase it back to clean metal or it'll laugh at you in six months.' I was pulling a panel off a '98 Civic and found a spot I'd have just filled. Anyone else have a moment like that change their process?

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