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alice336•9d ago

Enterprise ABM vs broad targeting - which actually drives pipeline?

I've been running enterprise campaigns for about 4 years now, mostly in B2B SaaS. Lately I keep seeing this push from leadership to go all in on account based marketing. Heavy personalization, 1:1 campaigns, the whole deal. But I look at our numbers and our broad webinars and email blasts still bring in 60% of our SQLs each quarter, at half the cost per lead. On the flip side, the ABM accounts we do target convert at a higher rate once they hit the sales stage. Like 3 out of 10 ABM leads close vs maybe 1 out of 20 from broad campaigns. So there's a real trade off. My observation is that people in this space pick a side and act like the other is useless. Either "ABM is the only way" or "just spray and pray". I think there's a middle ground based on company size and sales cycle length. What's your experience? Do you split your budget between both approaches or go all in on one?

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caleb_thomas93•11d ago

My boss told me to "just buy more leads" and it backfired hard

So last quarter my VP of sales told me to stop worrying about lead quality and just dump money into new lists to hit our pipeline number. I pushed back a little (you know, saying we should focus on conversion rates instead) but he insisted. We ended up spending about $15,000 on a big list from a data broker and blasted out a campaign to maybe 10,000 contacts. Well, 80% of those emails bounced and the few that landed got us flagged for spam by our provider. We actually got a warning from our email platform that put our whole domain at risk. Now I'm stuck cleaning up our sender reputation and trying to rebuild trust with the prospects who did engage. Has anyone else had a higher-up push for volume over quality and how did you handle the cleanup?

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fisher.adam•13d ago

Rant: Our $20k ABM platform gave us zero pipeline in 6 months

We signed a contract with a big ABM tool back in February. The sales guy promised it would integrate with Salesforce in 2 hours. Took our dev team 3 weeks to get it even sort of working. Then the data was all wrong, like 40% of the leads were duplicates. Last week I pulled the ROI report and we spent $20k for exactly zero meetings booked. I'm convinced these platforms just prey on enterprise marketing teams who are too scared to admit they got sold a dream. Anyone else finding success with a simpler stack instead of these bloated tools?

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the_morgan•13d ago

Doubled down on cold email outreach based on a consultant's advice and our domain got blacklisted within 48 hours

A guy from a marketing conference told me to blast 500 prospects a day through a cheap SMTP server, and now our company domain is on every spam blocklist I can find, has anyone else had to rebuild their entire sending reputation from scratch?

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alexw75•15d ago

Had a talk with a VP of Sales that flipped my approach to ABM

I was on a call last week with a VP of Sales from a SaaS company in Austin. He said something like 'your demand gen stuff is fine but half those leads are useless to me because they have no intent signal.' That hit different because I realized I was optimizing for quantity not quality. So I shifted our ABM targeting to focus on accounts showing product page visits and down-funnel actions instead of just form fills. The conversion rate jumped 15% in two weeks. Has anyone else had a sales leader point out something obvious that you missed?

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paigep20•15d ago

Our biggest ABM campaign flopped because we ignored sales feedback

Last quarter we launched a big account-based marketing push for our top 50 enterprise targets. Spent around $80k on personalized content and direct mail. We thought we had it all figured out from the research side. But about three weeks in, our sales team started telling us the messaging was off for their key contacts. We had picked the wrong pain points based on public data instead of what the reps heard in calls. By the time we adjusted, we had already wasted half the budget and missed the buying window for at least five accounts. Now I'm wondering if any of you have a process for getting sales input early without slowing down campaign timelines? How do you balance speed with getting the real story from the field?

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fisher.adam•15d ago

Hit 10,000 MQLs last quarter and honestly it felt like a trap

I ran a campaign for our enterprise software that brought in exactly 10,014 qualified leads in Q3. Everyone in the meeting was high-fiving until we looked at the data. Only 3% of those even had budgets over $50k and most were students or freelancers filling out forms for the free trial. My ops team spent two weeks cleaning fake emails and duplicate entries from Salesforce. We basically paid for a pile of junk data. Has anyone else seen these big number pushes backfire when quality control falls apart?

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adam_thompson53•16d ago

Overheard a VP say 'brand awareness is fluffy' and it STILL bothers me

Was at a strategy meeting last Thursday and this VP of Product said brand awareness is just 'marketing fluff.' Dude, we brought in 30% of our leads from a sponsored podcast series last quarter. How do you explain that conversion path without awareness? Anyone else deal with execs who only care about bottom-of-funnel metrics?

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stella_murray•18d ago

PSA: Cold emailing C-suite execs on weekends actually boosted my response rate

I was stuck getting like a 2% reply rate on my B2B outreach for months. Out of frustration I sent 50 emails to VPs at SaaS companies on a Saturday afternoon in Chicago and got 8 replies by Monday morning. Anyone else seen weird success with off-hours timing for enterprise deals?

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simon_coleman•18d ago

Rant: That demo at Salesforce's office in SF made me cringe

I went to a partner showcase at their Tower in San Francisco last month and watched a guy pitch a $50k add-on by saying 'it integrates with everything' while the screen showed a spinning wheel of death for 90 seconds. Nobody in the room asked a single question after. I get that live demos are hard, but has anyone else seen these big tech events just totally fall flat when the product can't back up the sales talk?

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ruby_rivera76•20d ago

Found a cheap way to test landing page copy without spending on ads

I was stuck trying to pick between two headlines for a B2B software page, but running A/B tests through Google Ads was burning like $200 a week just to get enough traffic. So I tried sending both versions to a small list of 50 existing customers via plain email and asked them to click the one they liked better. It took like two days and gave me a clear winner with zero ad spend. Has anyone else used customer lists to cheap out on copy testing?

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oliver2•20d ago

A/B tested my own email subject lines for 2 months and the simpler ones won every time

I was writing these clever, pun-filled subject lines for our enterprise SaaS drip campaign, but they barely got opened. Switched to just stating the product benefit plainly like "Reduce churn by 30% in 60 days" and open rates jumped 15% in the first week. Has anyone else seen better results with boring vs. creative subject lines for B2B?

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the_thomas•21d ago

Spent 3 weeks wrangling our CRM data before a single campaign launched

I figured migrating 40k contacts from our old system would take a weekend, but duplicate records and field mapping ate up 21 days of my life. Has anyone else burned way more time than expected on data cleanup before you could actually do any marketing?

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danielw88•21d ago

Spotted something interesting at the Denver MarTech conference last week

So I was at this big enterprise marketing conference in Denver last week, and I noticed something weird. Almost every booth from the big marketing automation vendors had these super generic demos showing the same workflows for email campaigns and lead scoring. But there was this one smaller vendor, some startup I'd never heard of, who had a live setup where they were actually pulling real data from a Fortune 500 company's CRM. Their demo froze for like 20 seconds and the presenter just laughed it off and said "that's enterprise reality." I ended up talking to their CTO for 15 minutes about how they handle API rate limits. It made me realize how often we see these polished demos that never match the actual day to day chaos of enterprise marketing. Has anyone else noticed a big gap between what vendors show at conferences and what really happens when you try to implement their tools? What's the worst demo you've seen?

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joel603•21d ago

Watched a marketing team spend $2k on a landing page nobody read

I was helping a friend who works at a mid size software company last month, and their whole enterprise marketing team spent two weeks debating button colors and font sizes on a new landing page. They had this big meeting where they showed all these A/B test results, and I just sat there thinking... but who is this page even for? Turns out they never once talked to their actual customers about what they needed. I see this all the time now, people getting lost in the tiny details while ignoring the big picture stuff like messaging and audience fit. My own flooring business taught me that you can have the prettiest website in the world, but if you're not saying what the customer cares about, they're gone in 5 seconds. Has anyone else noticed teams burning budgets on polish before basics?

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clark.robin•22d ago

Vent: That morning in San Jose when the ABM dashboard broke before the QBR

I was at a client site in San Jose back in 2019. Hour before the quarterly review with their CMO and the whole ABM platform froze. Couldn't pull a single account score. Had to walk them through results from memory and a printed CSV. After that I stopped trusting the automation alone and started keeping manual tracking sheets for our top 30 accounts. Anyone else have a tech failure that made you change your process?

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blair_dixon•22d ago

Appreciation post: The ABM campaign that finally clicked for me

I was listening to a marketing director from a software company in Austin talk about how they stopped trying to target 200 accounts at once. He said they picked 10, just 10, and spent 3 months building personalized content for each one. It made me think about how we spread ourselves too thin. We closed 2 of those 10 last quarter. Small numbers but big impact. Has anyone else tried narrowing their account list like that?

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the_morgan•22d ago

Just got our first enterprise deal after 6 months of knockbacks

I've been pretty skeptical about our sales process for a while. We spent all that time building case studies and doing demo calls but nothing was landing. Then last month we changed things up. We stopped trying to sell to IT directors and went straight to the VP of Marketing at a mid-sized SaaS company. She told us flat out that our old pitch was too technical for her. So we reframed everything around ROI and time saved per campaign. That one meeting turned into a 3 month trial with 200 seats. Still feels a bit like luck but maybe we finally figured out who our real buyer is. Has anyone else had better luck targeting a different role than the obvious one?

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finleyw99•23d ago

Settled on HubSpot over Salesforce after a 6 month trial

We ran both for a quarter with 12 users each. HubSpot's reporting was way less painful to set up, even if Salesforce has more raw power. Anyone else make the switch and regret it later?

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dakota_nelson43•24d ago

Took me 6 hours to fix a landing page CTA that was costing us leads

I spent all last Thursday testing why our demo request rate dropped, only to find a junior dev had swapped the button color to match the background. Our click-through fell by 20% over two months before I caught it. Anyone else ever miss something this obvious for way too long?

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grantadams•24d ago

Just realized my CRM automation was sending follow-ups to the wrong segment for 3 weeks

I spent 7 hours tracing back through our Salesforce workflow after noticing our Q2 nurture campaign had a 0% open rate, only to find a single dropdown field was mapped to the wrong pipeline stage, has anyone else had a tiny data mapping issue cause a total campaign fail?

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milestaylor•25d ago

Can we talk about how ABM platforms overpromise on intent data?

I dug into a Gartner report from March that said 65% of enterprise B2B intent data from major platforms like 6sense actually matches real buying signals. I spent $18k on one vendor's 'high intent' leads last quarter and maybe 10% turned into real conversations. Has anyone else found their intent data to be way less accurate than the sales demos suggest?

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pat_schmidt60•25d ago

Can we talk about the before and after of our email open rates after GDPR?

Two years ago we were cruising at 28% open rates on our B2B campaigns. Now we're lucky to hit 12% on a good Tuesday. It's not just the list cleaning either. I think people got trained to ignore anything that looks like a newsletter after all those consent popups. We changed our subject lines to be more direct like actual sales intros and it helped a little but not much. Has anyone else seen this drop or found a format that actually gets past the spam filters?

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zarar67•26d ago

Shoutout to the free trial that made me ditch my expensive ABM platform

I was dead set that Salesforce Pardot was the only way to go for our 500 person pipeline, but then I ran a 30 day test with Demandbase's free tier and saw a 22% higher conversion rate on our top accounts. Anyone else find a cheaper tool that outperformed the big name they swore by?

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the_margaret•26d ago

I used to think demand gen and brand building were separate things

For years I kept them in different buckets at my last company in Austin. We'd run a brand campaign for a quarter, then switch to a demand gen push the next. But after seeing a $50k ABM campaign flop because nobody recognized our name beforehand, I started wondering. Talked to a buddy at a SaaS firm who told me they weave brand messaging into every single ad and email, and their pipeline jumped 30% in 2 months. I'm curious how many others here treat brand as a separate thing rather than the foundation for everything else.